to eternal damnation and beyond

Wednesday, January 04, 2006

here's what he said to me the other day.

a religion, in a way, is like an identity. sort of like having a name. not having one is almost unthinkable.

no religion = no label = no identity

......

well, it wasnt the first time i heard something like that, but i still couldnt help but feel a little annoyed. what, now i should get a religion just so i'd have a label?! so i can go around saying "lookie here, i'm a Christian!" or "yay i'm a Buddhist!" or "heya i'm a Muslim!" or "yeah baby, i'm now into *insert random religion*".

PLEASE.

and there he was, smiling smugly, saying "see, i didnt even say much and she's all defensive already."

WTF.

i very patiently explained that i would embrace a certain religion only after i have a considerable amount of faith in it. i wouldnt rush to menganut some agama just because someone said u have to have a religion.

and WHAT is it that we all MUST! MUST! MUST! have a religion?!

i dont have religion my boobs will never grow big is it?!

oh, i forgot - eternal damnation. no where to go after i die. no heaven will take me in. or worse - i'll go to hell OMIGOSH!

which is what a friend told me years ago. no religion? it's hell for u, baby. confirm, man!

gee, if the Almighty is chucking me in hell just because i dont have a religion, He sure is pretty xiao qi.

oops, bordering on blasphemy here.

the point is, i'll only take on a religion when i have faith in it, not for the sake of having a religion. is that so wrong?

then he asked me "what is faith?" and "how do u measure faith?" and "how do you define faith", etc etc.

when i finally (and wearily) pointed out that faith was subjective, he went smug again.

i guess he was trying to say (because he did say all these) - if u dont have a religion now, then when? how would u know when u have faith? when are u going to menganut a religion? at your deathbed? if not now, then when?

when i get sudden enlightenment ala siddharta gautama, u doink.

(just kidding la. and i didnt say that out loud.)

HIS view was - get a religion, then grow your faith. or something to that effect.

no no no no no. i cant get into a religion when i'm so full of scepticism. preaches and sermons and whatnots might change my mind but i'd feel brainwashed! brainwashed! i dont want to feel that way towards a religion! i want to absorb it on my own.

i dont want to be dragged across like some relunctant kid and have people saying look look here's God, praise the Lord and Hallelujah when i wouldnt be able to feel His presence.

see, i'd want to find God, or let Him find me.

there are times when i have the feeling that He is just outside my door - maybe He knocked, maybe He didnt. even if He opened the door and stood there in all His glory i might not realise His presence. but He'll be there just at the door... and one day, something might click in me and i'll know He has been there all this while.

then i'd open the door.

10 tortoises in a row!:

Anonymous said...

nobody should ever tell u that u MUST have a religion... the thing that matters is finding God like u're doing... not finding religion! seriously... that's one of the misconception of Christianity nowadays... the truth is, taking up a religion, going to church, or even by just doing good won't bring us to heaven either... it's just believing that Jesus died for us and rose from the dead and accepting Him as our Lord and Saviour is the main issue...

FACT: God hates religious people!

But God loves those who love Him! So it's not religion that will determine whether u go to hell or heaven... it's ur sin that makes one thing sure... everyone will die... :)

i understand what u mean... let the faith come into u... that's how most ppl do... mind u, i dun go around saying praise the Lord or Hallelujah for everything... in fact, i sometimes dun feel it at all... so... hehe... but yea, when God really appears at ur house main door, and say "So-and-so, I am God" 100% nobody will believe... not even the religious Christians... :)

neway, in the mood of commenting ler... haha... that's why write soo loong... i've commented ur other posts too... :P

Anonymous said...

Hey dear, I understand how you feel. But there's a saying that rings ever true, "if you want Him, He will come to you. :)

sherry said...

eR!c: wow! ur comment is long hahahahaha...

actually, another thing that came up while talking to him was also the diff of catholics n methodists. i've heard more from methodists so my ideas were a little diff from his.

and yeah, i was thinking that it can't be possible that people's faith NEVER waver... i'm sure it does for some, rite? but then again when faith returns, i suppose it would be stronger?

haha, i'm just musing la... anyway, got mood to write must blog also! so long no update! quick quick, go blog! XD

sherry said...

bonnie: thanks dear... =) and i sure hope the saying works for me too. God's being a bit shy to make his debut in my life... or maybe it's just me. ><

Felicia said...

please..i've been hit left and right FOR having a religion (very subjective this) and for erm..not being a very good member of said religion. and trust me, at this point i don't think i even believe in it anymore. true, i still have faith (subjective again *yawn*) but really, i don't think i take everything they believe in as 100% really.. never did, but how do you explain to the adults around you when you were 4 that you don't think they're right about some things God did? (again very...yes yes SUBjective...)

i love your last paragraph, very well said. when the time is right, the time is right. when i said that yuo know what he did la right, tell me that THE END OF THE WORLD IS NEAR...

so was it some two millennia ago i think...*shrug*

but hey, i really do think the world is coming to an end, so yay! i'll be right then that i'll die young la if that was true..

wth this can be a blog post by itself..><

sherry said...

pesky: wow, long comment... o.O

and yeah, it's all subjective, isnt it. i just dont see any sense in pinpointing faith or religion.

also, i hear ppl say that when the time comes it'll be the end of the world or watnot. too late, bla bla bla.

haha, got so much to say quick go blog it out! =D

sherry said...

tong: haha, eh, his faith is strong. usually he's really nice wan la, just that when it comes to his religion... *shrugs*

incidently, wat are u gonna say to him??? so powderful ah? lol...

AND DEAR, WHO SAID U CAN BULLY ME!?!??!?!?! *kicks*

and no dodging. =P

Anonymous said...

it may or may not get stronger lar after ur faith is waven... but getting a religion just for the sake of filling up the "blank" space is silly... and if one human being can be so strong in faith that not a single difficulty put in front of him or temptation placed in front of him would shake him, then he's either Jesus or Satan...

sherry said...

er!c: yes, exactly the point... getting a religion just for the sake of it. i just dont see why i should do it.

is faith hard to come by?

hmm.

Anonymous said...

i dunno... but i agree with bonnie... God will find u if u're looking for Him...